), Auto ISO in manual, and the newer sensor in the G95's favor... On a slightly larger body with a tighter 4K crop. Pick your preferences, tiny, awkward and less capable, or bigger and much nicer to use. One that rips it a new one because of AF performance with a pre-production firmware. DJI's second-generation Pocket camera includes a long list of useful upgrades including a wider, faster lens, a larger sensor, more resolution, improved audio and an optional handle that significantly improves control and supports live streaming. It has been just under $700 for the kit, and an advantage for the few that want to upgrade to the G95 is that it takes the same batteries and Grip as the G85. Funny thing is how the G95/90 can't produce the same 4K output from the G9, considering the G95/90 is using the same 20MP and new engine. This is hardly a small body. That was my point Charrick1. It has a couple extra control interfaces, and that's good, but what else is there that is so superior to the G85? I'm not sure how you'll do it without cutting off your feet but it was your idea. Earlier this week we published our samples from the new Sigma 65mm F2 DG DN when mounted on a Sony body. @Tony Northrup ...You declared the m43 format "Dead", so why are you even here, reading about one of it's (many, many New) products? There is NO way to fix that in post. Please get back to us once the ridiculous crop and other downsides pointed out by DPR's excellent article have been negated by the release of the "production" model... Because presumably Panasonic gave them this pre production model to review. As for that "nonstandard" lower resolution 60p, I would render it either to great full 60p HD with oversampling or to 4K container accepting slightly reduced resolution and enjoying good, not choppy motion. With all the lenses on the market anyone should be able to get the angle they want. When autocomplete results are available use up and down arrows to review and enter to select. GH5 and G9 use Sony IMX272 while, for example, GX8 uses Sony IMX269 - both 20MP m43 but not the same. Plus for 4k output on less than 40MP, its more like 2 pixels of data into 3 pixels of output since RGB pixels have to be computed separately. As for the G95 4K crop issue mentioned in this article: undoubtedly they chose to settle on the best possible image from this sensor/CPU combination. Detail and sharpness are too different things. 16-Megapixel MFT eliminates the need for low-pass sensor filters while boosting fine detail resolving power sensor. Maybe the BMPCC is another one? However my interest in Panasonic video has led me to this article and to these comments. This isn't very demanding in terms of processing, so its rolling shutter performance is good and you'll very rarely need to worry about overheating. You will also find the exposure control dials, a shutter release, AF/AE lock buttons and an exposure compensation dial. Alternatively we can choose to edit/adjust the 1080p content vs publishing unedited 4k content. When RP came out, you didn't publish a full blown article pointing out its obvious flaws compared to even quite old models from competition. 4K publish? When 8k becomes a thing and crop sensors will become inappropriate ti accomodate the required resolution. Table helps, but need to Verify: (1) G85 has superior 1.1x crop in 4K with a much bigger 137mm2 4K-Sensor-area, and (2) G95 suffer from 1.25x 4K crop with smaller 107mm2 4K sensor area. Each will be trying to innovate (hopefully) in an effort to capture market share from the others. That’s capitalism to me. Swallow your DFD pride and please please please Integrate phase detect for a perfect video AF in GH6! They settled on a crop in order to give YOU the best image possible at a more affordable price point. But if we can't write an article highlighting a drawback until we've written one about every camera, then we can't ever write such an article (since one always has to be the first - though we have written critical articles/informer pieces before). "Ebrahim, aren't you a dentist?" @Richard Butler. The 65mm T2 completes Vazen's set of anamorphic lenses for the Micro Four Thirds system. To quote from the article:"Canon built a reputation for video with its EOS 5D II, but appears to have struggled to live up to it (in its consumer cameras at least).". Panasonic G85 Face Detect in Video & AF Sensitivity Demo. It is misleading to make a claim about of inadequacy related to having '4K' that can only shoot a pitiful 15 frame per second when the unstated basis for comparison involves an aging model at entry level - two full body categories below. 715g / 1.58 lb (SD card, Battery, H-FS12060 lens included). it would be a great help to all those looking for comparison. But I don't get that it sustains more detail in the SAME final 3840x2160 final output as a native "1:1 capture". La Panasonic G80 / G81 / G85 è una fotocamera mirrorless con sensore 4/3 (2.0x) da 16 megapixels prodotta dal 2016 al 2019 (fuori produzione). Iscriviti a Prime Ciao, Accedi Account e liste Accedi Account e liste Resi e Ordini Iscriviti a Prime Carrello. AF is a lot better than on G85, despite being on pre-production firmware. @otto Ah Ok. yes I can see that downsampling could make a better analysis when it comes to the nitty-gritty of separate R, G and B. Honestly the camera would be pretty much perfect for me without the crop. (i.e. - When the ambient temperature is high or continuous recording is performed, the camera may stop the recording to protect itself. ±3 EV, single/burst, 1 to 999 images, focus steps can be set in 5 levels, 3 exposures in blue/amber axis or in magenta/green axis, [Mechanical shutter] AFS: H: 9 frames/sec, M: 6 frames/sec (with Live View), L: 2 frames/sec (with Live View), [Mechanical shutter] AFC: H: 6 frames/sec, M: 6 frames/sec (with Live View), L: 2 frames/sec (with Live View), [Electronic shutter] AFS: H: 10 frames/sec, M: 6 frames/sec (with Live View), L: 2 frames/sec (with Live View), [Electronic shutter] AFC: H: 6 frames/sec, M: 6 frames/sec (with Live View), L: 2 frames/sec (with Live View), More than 45 images (when there are RAW files with the particular speed), More than 300 images (when there are no RAW files), (Depending on memory card type, aspect, picture size and compression), 4K Pre-Burst: 30 frames/sec, approx. For amateurs, the G95 will deliver good results with greater ease. Still. I'm an enthusiast, and I love my G85 for video, even with the crop in 4K. Remember that full-sensor un-cropped 4K video capture requires more processing power which generates more heat and requires more battery power. The true reason this camera is not very attractive to buy: it's to make the G9 look like a great deal. We haven't reviewed the a6400 yet. The way you guys are talking is just silliness.. / Digital Zoom / Stabilizer Sensitivity / White Balance / AF Mode / 4K Live Crop / Snap Movie / Motion Pic. Let's not underestimate something very important about the G85 and G95: the good pre-amp. Matt, from YouTube channel DIY Perks, has shared how he managed to get more from the camera, first through watercooling his R5, then through more conventional means. I had the GH5 too and loved that even more (with the Olympus 12-100). Five years since LX100 got 4K 30fps and still the same here. More like upper middle for a crop camera. "Noise Performance" is indicated as "low". Google is your friend. Who is the target audience? Ebrahim, the rolling shutter in full sensor readout in A6400 is so bad, I will never use that option. 10 years ago, there were some Professionals I knew still on SD shooting in 4:3 aspect ratio and arguing I was being too Professional shooting HD in 16:9 ratio. Funny how I do not recall a similar article crucifying Sony A6400 for a crop in 4K/30. On most cameras it's not a technical limitation but a tax avoidance scheme for EU. As we continue to test Nikon's update of its multimedia full-framer, we've added more of our findings so far on image quality, dynamic range and video quality. Explore the Panasonic DMC-G85K - Lumix G Cameras - With a weatherproof body, 5-axis Dual I.S.2, impressive image and video quality plus 4K technology, the LUMIX G85 is … Senior Editor Barney Britton's Gear of the Year part two details how he ended up with a Reflex-Nikkor 1000mm F11, and despite its quirks, why it was ideal for a creative project in the COVID-era. (This is coming from a m43 user). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui3qje1GmVQ. Many, as I, do not want or need the stops in depth of field of FF glass/body, the DR of FF sensors (except Canon) and generally, the size related to such.Those will still want good quality cropped products. Aiming to save photographers carrying a cable and a charger for every battery they use, this device handles up to four batteries at the same time and can charge at home, in the car and via a USB power bank. So your talk of crop sensors being vanished in the near future because of 8k is BS. With a 1.8x squeeze, the lens produces a more pronounced anamorphic effect than the 1.33x lenses offered by Sirui, albeit at a much higher cost. 4K is useful there too. I sort of regret selling my G85. Not unrealistic, there are much smaller sensors with even higher resolutions and they work fine. All I can do is promise that the a6400's rolling shutter (or crop and still pretty bad rolling shutter) will be made clear in its review. Touch device users, explore by touch or with swipe gestures. :), "But, most pressingly, the standard of the competition has risen: the Fujifilm X-T30 can shoot 4K/30p from a much larger sensor region with no crop (and none of the rolling shutter that holds back Sony's offering in the class).". I think that the important takeaway regarding Fuji is that like stills they seem to be saying all (or most maybe absolute bottom tier is different) our future cameras will have this level of stills and video capability. Dynamic / i. Give the G90 every spec of the G9 for much less money and they won’t sell any more G9 cameras. It's a niche (and pricey) product to be sure, but so far we find it to be well-designed and capable of outstanding results. Scopri i prodotti Panasonic DMC-G80 - Fotocamere Lumix G - Ovunque ti porti l'avventura, LUMIX G80 unisce la più recente tecnologia di doppia stabilizzazione (Dual I.S.) I do agree the AF flutter is really pronounced. Even without Bayer, you need to sample the scene at more than 3840 x 2160 to perfectly re-create all the detail that can be conveyed in a 3840 x 2160 final image. Funny how that went. And are very useful techniques, for getting best imagery out of today's in-motion world. The Panasonic Lumix DMC-G85 can record 4K UHD video at up to 3840x2160 (30p/24p). I think the reality here is that smartphones have crushed the lower end of the camera market - not just compact cameras but now entry/mid range ILC's - and manufacturers don't see a return on R&D investment at this end of the market. Nobody said you should shoot 720i, 1080p or 8k. Now, I can use a USB battery bank while shooting is a godsend. It will stop 2020. Personally, I usually shoot 4k. That 1.25x crop is on top of the already cropped micro 4/3ds sensor which is anywhere from 1.8x to 2.0x depending on the size of it. The G90 should have had all the features of the G9 at 200gr less weight and $200 less price, but they purposefully did not. Be the first to know about new products, promotions, technology and more! Why would anyone needing to shoot 4k crop down in camera to 1080p? Glad to see Richard weighs in on the 4K crop issue, that's my biggest gripe about GX9, now G95 and stops any urge to upgrade. This way you can´t get 60p, the "rolling shutter" is high as is the memory consumption in the card and in the battery.